Civil Humans, People have various thoughts about there being so many people on earth, and exceeding the long-term carrying capacity for humans. Nobody wants to volunteer to die. Some people put the question off by claiming that it is not a real problem for one reason or another. There are support groups for these various non-problem scenario beliefs.
Abiogenic oil is not fossil fuel. Fossil fuel was an idea proposed in a book published in 1759 by German chemist Caspar Neumann. In 2009, the Royal Institute of Technology in Stockholm reported research that suggests crude oil and natural gas can be generated outside of the decomposition of flora and fauna fossils. That finding provides support for the idea that petroleum and natural gas can form through more than one method.
Just wanted to point out how "models" are the favorite play toy of people with philosophical (or other) axes to grind. Asshole Dr. Neal Ferguson brought us the model that triggered "justification" for massive Covungabunga TYRANNY. These models of population, production, etc. are just that: Models. Models that purport to Predict The Future. Umm hmmm....
Malthus predicted people would starve but failed to predict advances in farming and sanitation that utterly broke his "model". Personally, I am not at all satisfied to accept such models because they have been discredited by history (e.g. "all the glaciers will be gone by 2020", "we have only 12 years to save the planet", and other such Bull Shit).
Models cannot predict advances might be discovered that would discredit them. After all, there's not much Money in the sale of unreliable models. Just saying.
Let me start by saying how happy I was to read you latest building project report. You have accomplished so much this past year+. I felt I was really able to share in your joy:)
This post is truly inspired. So much ground covered. A lot of hard truths presented. And yet a lot of good and hope also. I have to say that you, John Greer, Ugo Bardi, Robert F Kennedy/Childrens Health Defense, Joe Malone, Peter Mccullough, Steve Kirsh, Meryl Nass, Tess Lawrie, and so many others, are truly lights of the world. I could never adequately express how grateful I am to have found and have all of you in my awareness and experience. No matter what happens, or what my experience of this period is going forward, I will always draw peace, inspiration, wisdom, agency, and joy from all of you.
Thank you, John, and as Red Skelton used to say, "may God bless":)
Dennis Gaudet, Boston MA
Nice summary of our predicament and pathways that may develop or not. Aligns with my basic view going forward. The depopulation issue is well under way I fear. It had to happen and was always going to be chaotic and bumpy. Most can't see it simply because they won't look or don't know to look. Nothing new there. From 1968:
Male undergraduates found themselves in a smoke filled room either alone, with 2 nonreacting others, or in groups of 3. As predicted, Ss were less likely to report the smoke when in the presence of passive others (10%) or in groups of 3 (38% of groups) than when alone (75%). This result seemed to have been mediated by the way Ss interpreted the ambiguous situation; seeing other people remain passive led Ss to decide the smoke was not dangerous. (PsycINFO Database Record (c) 2016 APA, all rights reserved)
John Ward of 'The Slog', reposted 'World-War 3' with this comment about John. Sorry, John. Den
"John Day is an American general practitioner who lost his job for refusing to buy into the eclectic monsoon of nonsense that surrounded the “management” of Covid19. I first came across him nearly ten years ago via Eleni Tsigantes and her Athenian knitting circle of fully awake folks. Quite how he keeps up the prolific pace of his output is beyond me; but his skill lies in writing accessibly about data in perspective and its real significance in the broadest possible context. He is, in short, a Renaissance Man….and this recent post from his substack is today offered at The Slog to exemplify the approach. Enjoy."
Dr. John... I do not refer to EROI or EROEI. Get real friend. Water & Co2 already in the atmosphere to create new syn-gas fuels. Cost ? maybe expensive to start... but a huge benefit over time. that's it. Petroleum is no longer a necessity.
I just wanted to take a moment to thank Dr. John for his interesting and thought-rich posts. But I also want to thank the discussion participants I have seen and enjoyed here. This is a small corner of the Internet, but a thoughtful and enjoyable one. Cheers to all!
Yo John! Check this out if you haven’t:
Right up my alley.
What is my Life's work?
Energy from water.
Possible Clean uncontrollable unlimited power for everyone without paying taxes.
I write about this a lot... here
And of course my patented technology here
In there you find multiple technologies with witch we can create absolute Zero Emissions from Energy Transportation and Logistics and more.
ABSOLUTE ZERO EMISSIONS!
Here is my story.
When I was about 15 I saw that water breaks down into its components Oxygen and Hydrogen at around 2000°C and burns back into water in an instant.
That has put me onto a path I will never waver from.
The problem are the Politicians the money people the WEF IMF EZB BOE Jews the Freemasons the Zionists. and the Satanists... the Technocratic Elite.
We have a population Brainwashed to defend the Rich against any accusation of wrongdoing
They are the Occult preoccupying all control positions everywhere and stopping Humanity using water as a fuel and as such eradicating all problems we currently face.
The Jewish Occult wages WW3 against WE THE PEOPLE.
This post is hard to follow. There is so much winding verbiage that it's difficult to get the point or points. About oil and gas. Lookup 'E-Diesel' or 'Blue Crude' by the Audi corp., created in 2015. Apparently, they created a diesel fuel substitute out of water and Co2 already in the atmosphere. And Sunfire.de created syn-gas. So petroleum is no longer necessary. These fuels power the cars of the Audi executives since 2015. they work. So no technology would have to change. only the fuel would change. Everything else would be okay as is. And the waste product of 'E-Diesel' & 'Syn-Gas' is water vapor & returning the borrowed C02 back into the atmosphere. And now ask yourself... why haven't you heard of these ground breaking 0-carbon fuel alternatives ?
Oh No! I forgot to mention and thank Dr Marik and Dr Kory and FLCCC in my last post. Thank You!!!
Good post. Additional thoughts:
Hi John Congrats (and the rest of humanity) We are officially 8billion.
Less and less civil in most parts.
The genesis of oil is controversial among experts.
I find the abiotic genesis of oil theory to be a little more compelling, myself, but as I said to Stegiel, we are using language here.