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wkenn's avatar

You pointed in many directions, well done.

A passing thought on the items concerning sophisticated weapons systems:

in April 2014 the USS Donald Cook was the subject of repeated passes by a Russian fighter jet armed only with electronic paraphernalia. This occurred in the Black Sea in the general vicinity of Crimea. The destroyers defense systems were totally, as in completely, disabled. The crew watched as the jet made repeated runs at their ship, only to turn away, never actually passing over the vessel.

The gist of the Russian military staff comments after the event were along the lines of:

"When you make something very sophisticated, there emerge exploitable weaknesses."

We are watching this in real time with real lives hanging in the balance.

John Day MD's avatar

I remember that event. It means something. We never heard more about it.

wkenn's avatar

Reports I cannot immediately verify emerged positing a larger than normal number of requests for transfer off the ship.

Not flying over the vessel played as a common probing tactic frequently used in many scenarios worldwide. Fly like you intend aggression, then turn off before the aggression threshold is reached, sit back and watch the reaction. A vessel overfly would have violated 'the rules' of such tactics and been very aggressive. The crew was helpless.

"We never heard more about it." Correct, straight down the rabbit hole.

In 2002 retired USMC Lt. General Paul Van Riper led OPFOR (Red Team) in a massive war game exercise. It simulated an incident in the Straits of Hormuz.

He discarded high tech in favor or motorcycle messengers and swarms of small boats overwhelming the carrier group (Blue Team). He decimated Blue team to the point the military, not liking the outcome (losing a carrier = big no-no), ordered a do-over without such tactics. The retired General resigned in protest.

I'll offer not much was learned from the exercise 24 years ago.

There is no exit strategy.

The first option I see is declare victory, and withdraw all troops and naval vessels from the region. This might mean Israel ceases to exist, a topic for another time.

A disturbing development is the Charles deGaulle is reported to be heading to the Eastern Mediterranean. To maintain air superiority 3 carrier groups are needed. It is 12 on, 12 off, which two groups can do, except if a carrier is lost, the third group fills the gap.

Having watched this for decades the French carrier was always the wild card, as it is a true carrier, unlike the Brits, whose 'carrier' has less capability.

For example, it's an easy search to find French Rafele landing on US carriers, it's a well-integrated operation.

My take: escalation. Except the supplies are depleted, a land war in Western Iran requires extensive mountain engagements against an entrenched force. A Marine Expeditionary Force is not designed to perform extended engagement in such an environment.

The deployment and resupply is a logistic nightmare.

I find nothing indicating the American people have either stomach or will for another never-ending land war anywhere, let alone the Middle East.

Eastern Iran is yet another logistic problem.

This does not look good, and I haven't approached the religious aspect of the Shia and the Samson option of Israel.

Forced regime change does not end well. Ever (well, at least tracing back to the French Revolution).

Regime change does not happen with only an air component. The Battle of Britain in WWII is a valid example. The reasons it was attempted might be debatable, but Goering's ego likely played a large part, and cross-channel amphibious assault is difficult.

There's a few of my thoughts.

Gardening is good for both body and soul!

John Day MD's avatar

This is a different epoch of the world, which we enter through this war, the epoch of less-of-everything.

The essentials of the war will be to sort out ownership of what remains and assign losses, and to forge a new financial system around real economy, which will be workable. It has to work; not just a world of digital-slaves with programmable-money leashes.

It is a rational goal to destroy less stuff, but killing lots of people will be fine in the estimation of elites. Populist elites (Trump?) will seek to give people a bit better deal in order to win.

Hunker down. This will never return to "normal".

;-(

George Reichel's avatar

I do remember that incident.

BlazeCloude3's avatar

AI programed with lies and propaganda and we're surprised when it creates teeth moving around in the mouth and six fingers?

Programing is foundational evil...

What could humans ever have to worry about with all the cool tech?

John Day MD's avatar

It needs our electricity, too.

BlazeCloude3's avatar

And, lots of water as coolant.

Red's avatar

I've stated from the start that AI will kill itself, here is a round up of that happening in real time:

https://charleshughsmith.substack.com/p/why-ai-malware-and-harmful-second

John Day MD's avatar

That's included in my next post, about to go up. Charles is a thoughtful man.

SomeDude's avatar

if the US Corporation is truly allowing israhell to blackmail them into on the ground military in Iran on the basis of nuclear threats, the board of directors has to be made of the stupidest anti-American poor excuses for humans ever.

with that threat having been explicitly made ever since the US Corporation gave those fiends nukes in the first place decades ago, you'd think at least a few of the US persons involved would've had the brains to put remote detonators in some of the billions and billions of dollars of ordinance shipped over there.

or at least the Corporation's military department should've had the brains to drop those bunker busters on the real, clearly evidenced, threat to humanity in the middle east, the one they've been using as an outpost since it was given official control over Palestine in 1948.

John Day MD's avatar

I'm not sure of the real chain of command, are you? LBJ "lost" a lot of weapons grade plutonium in Israel's direction after they worked together (with others) to get rid of Kennedy, who was denying them the bomb and about to inspect Dimona.

The deep-state cabal has been in varying degrees of control behind the facade of a national-interest since then. With the neocon takeover it has been pretty pervasive. It is at a crisis. I suspect that there are US targets for the Samson Option, due to a very old internet rumor about a radiation-signature from the Israeli embassy in NYC in the 1990s.

I have no proof, but just seek to understand the "real" situation.

The current zionist-Israel can only maintain internal political control while it prosecutes war. There has to be a nuclear crisis from that dynamic. When, where and how?

The Rightway's avatar

I read once that Israel kept Shamir alive for 8 years after a stroke until officially declaring him dead, so I’m not expecting to see a coffin full of ‘bits of bibi’ anytime soon.

As for us troops invading Iran , or somewhere there, as we used to say in Britain after joining the army ‘once you take the Queen’s shilling’, the worst thing for US forces it’s Trump who’s taken Miriam’s dollars, nothing much for her I suppose. Another Royal quote comes to mind ‘my kingdom for a horse’ re this transaction.

John Day MD's avatar

Dying on the way to Kharg Island in a ship or a chopper could be big...

;-(

George Reichel's avatar

Maybe BIBI is a Nephilim midget. We do know he's a despicable war criminal and Trumps puppetmaster.

John Day MD's avatar

If he is officially declared dead, maybe Trump can say Bibi tricked him into going to war and bug-out.

Fritz Freud's avatar

This war is all about fulfilling the self fulfilling prophecy of the coming of the Moshiach by 2027.

https://fritzfreud.substack.com/p/the-messiah-has-arrived

P.S.

Natanyahoo needs six fingers so he can shove them all up his arse.

John Day MD's avatar

Thanks Fritz. Steer very wide around all death cults.

;-(

John Day MD's avatar

Different video. Certainly not convincing of his current existence.

We won't know until a corpse or a live Netanyahu is produced to the public.

Speaking The Truth's avatar

https://x.com/i/status/2033572050032558520 A masterclass in AI spoofing. Just in: Iran's new Supreme Leader, Mojtaba Khamenei also seen alive, visiting the same cafe as 🇮🇱 PM Netanyahu (AI Video) did. 🤭

Also proving he has 5 fingers ... 😄

Watch video

John Day MD's avatar

"Evidence" ain't what it used to be.

Red's avatar

No it isn't! It's whatever whoever wants it to be. Brings a whole new meaning to " I've been framed"!

John's avatar

Many questions seem to stay unanswered. Do we know where bin Laden's corpse went? Where's Assad living since he was forced to leave Syria ... in Moscow? Do we ever hear from whistleblower Edward Snowden these days?

John Day MD's avatar

There seem to have been several BinLaden's.

The first one was in a Pakistani military hospital getting dialysis for renal failure on 9/11/01.

He was largely a fictional character for the American story line...

;-(

Red's avatar

Things are looking peachy there brother John. "Brother John" I like it, I like it a lot! Has a nice ring don't you think?

"The global economy didn’t have a buffer"

This is what happens when bean counters run the show. Redundancies aren't good for the bottom line. CEO: Why don't we have some parts on the shelf? CFO: Because that would cut into the profit margin.

Now when things go sideways there is no patch available for continuity. The whole damn thing seizes up.

Nakayama's avatar

I think Israel is very close to the decision point of fight or flight. My guess is they will choose to fight, and there is nothing much they can do besides the Samson option. At best, they will apply the Samson option to Iran only. I also hear rumors that Iran has made the second attempt at IDF's ICBM base. Whether it succeeded in destroying anything remains to be seen. If Iran destroyed one or more nuclear warheads, Israel will fire the rest. If the Iranians missed again, I think the chance of Israeli launching nuclear ICBM is more than 50%, but there is a chance they will hold the ICBM at bay a few days more.