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reante's avatar

"What we have is a Brokenist-Denialist spectrum."

LOL. What we actually have is a manufactured Denialist-Denialist non-spectral mainstream culture.

Peak Oil breaks shit and the Hidden Hand manufactures everyone's denial of Peak Oil by harnessing their capture bondage. The so-called Brokenists are bargaining with reality even more than the so-called Denialists, which is why they've now been put in power.

It's not a political problem folks! Lol. You said it this morning, John - tower of babble.

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John Day MD's avatar

It's a better conceptual framework than Left-Right. We are long-term brokenists, seeking to be constructive, but lots of folks are novices.

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reante's avatar

Facing down structural collapse isn't a skill. It's not conceptually difficult, and the evidence is there for all to see. What it is is a gut check and a character check, combined. Weak adults shouldn't be coddled, they should face a continual wind of resistance from us so that they may get stronger. If they choose to fold then that is their prerogative but we have no other way of strengthening them with the wind of truth. Twas ever thus..

Let's not baby them by validating their weaknesses. That's not love. That's us folding to their false wind. The yin and the yang.

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John Day MD's avatar

None of us can really "face down structural collapse" if it is complete enough, but engaging the practice develops adaptive skills and insights, as you and I discover in the process.

What is weak and what is strong? We work together in various ways as social animals.

If we can work a little ways into a better path, and remain visible, then people might think of us when they face difficulties that they have seen us work with.

I keep my large vegetable garden visible in Yoakum, and I kept the one at the clinic at my own effort and expense, so that it would already be there in the minds of all of my coworkers.

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reante's avatar

Yeah right on I'm the same way. I'm up front with being a pepper, both in word and deed, ain't got nothing to hide and nothing to fear from being open about it.

We all know what weakness and strength is.

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djean111's avatar

At first run-through - bravo! Pulls together all the random little wads of facts floating around, gives perspective. Now to peruse.

I did spend the first two years of jab-less Covid existence taking C and D and zinc. Now a daily habit. I have no idea if I have ever had Covid. I don't really care at this point. And I am in one of the target groups. Not protected groups. Target.

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John Day MD's avatar

Good on Ya! Upper-normal is a good place to keep your vitamin-D level, in general.

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reante's avatar

Trust me, you never had covid.

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djean111's avatar

Well, I am 79. Never had a flu shot, never had the flu. But about two years ago, I did have something that made me just mostly sleep for over a month. Before that, my son went into the hospital for diabetes stuff, I stayed in the ER waiting room, the various ER rooms, used public bathrooms, went to the cafeteria and gift shop many times, almost a week of mask free hospital, talked to likely at least 30 different doctors and nurses. Nothing. I think we all have been tricked. In any event, I will never get jabbed. Chickens, bats, whatever the F. I think that the ventilators and Remdesivir killed most of the hospital dead. Anyway, I feel I have about ten or eleven years to go, and I will just avoid doctors, prescriptions, jabs, and hospitals in order to do that. Still have all my marbles. All the marbles say hey, the US is a business, not a country (tm Brad Pitt) and just keep clear of the profiteers.

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John Day MD's avatar

People who don't go to doctors live longer on average.

Some people are just not susceptible to COVID.

Eat fresh vegetables. Go for daily walks in the sun. Be a human.

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John's avatar

"... Go for daily walks in the sun ..."

An interesting suggestion in the UK at latitude 52 degs north! Last year the Met. Office weather station closest to me recorded 1,300 hours of sunshine.

The longest-lived person ever (Jeanne Calment, 122) reportedly went for a daily 1 km walk. But she lived in Arles, southern France (3,000 hours of sunshine annually).

I take vitamin D all year but it probably isn't quite enough. See talks by Dr Paul Mason (Australia). He argues that sunshine has extra benefits not available just from D3 pills.

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John Day MD's avatar

I agree with the other-benefits, and experience it myself, particularly in recovery from injuries over time, getting range of motion back, specifically. The near-infrared is special. One needs to avoid burning, but holding a stretch while lying in the sun will work over one sunny-season of the year to improve range of motion, which I had constrained from injuries, and was approaching "frozen shoulder" syndrome.

I reside in fairly central Texas, so our sun is stronger than yours, dangerously strong in the summer, but mildly useful on a clear, warm day in even January.

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Saint Jimmy's avatar

Yep. I've felt that "dangerously strong" a few times in my life.... teens and 20s. You learn about the sun in Texas.

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reante's avatar

Biochemically the extra benefits would be sulfates of vit d. The industry cannot make sulfates of vit d. Electromagnetically, there are other benefits of sunshine, some of which can be faked like infrared sauna lights

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John Day MD's avatar

The short-wave or "near" infrared seems to stimulate tissue healing and remodeling.

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rickrolled's avatar

“People who don't go to doctors live longer on average”

Res ipsa loquitur.

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Hubbs's avatar

Actually, a better correlation might be those who work full time jobs are healthier, because to hold a full time job, you have to be healthy in the first place, which means you don’t have to see doctors and you already tend to live longer.

Don’t get me wrong. I have been associated with a lot of doctors as a retired physician and I can assure you, most are NOT nice people. The Fauci type I saw in pre-med and could spot them a mile away. Little F-ing twerps. I have no “colleagues” in the medical profession whom I would consider even casual acquaintances.

You expect lawyers to be scum and sociopaths who should be exterminated as Shakespear suggested, but not doctors, and that’s what is so scary. In my memoirs, I detail how incompetent and back stabbing both professions could be. Archway, the publisher, would not let me write it as non-fiction even though I have all the files, videos, transcripts, newspaper articles and even the nationally televised event from “A Current Affair” where I was made out to be an executioner for an operating room nurse’s premeditated act of delegating her duty of selecting and drawing up a drug on my verbal order to an untrained tech behind my back. The tech selected a lethal drug. Nothing happened to the nurse or tech, or the anesthesiologist who had begged off the case (abandoned his patient) and then solicited a conspiracy to call it a “severe allergic reaction” from a lethal medication. My Medical Legal Back Pages. Archway. Pen name Bryce Sterling. Based entirely on actual events; first in KY and then in NC. Then in MS.

I no longer give to my alumni fund either.

https://alumni-awards.williams.edu/bicentennial-medal/elizabeth-libby-hohmann-class-of-1980/

And at my former hospital in KY where the above event took place, well, here is an example of a former “colleague” at my hospital who was on staff while I was there and who had also been the President of the Kentucky Medical Association at the time.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/1991/09/08/barred-doctor-could-set-up-a-new-practice/

Or, if you like hypocrisy of the KY Board of Medical Licensure who suspended my license for this nurse’s act,

https://www.kentucky.com/news/local/crime/article290295139.html

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John Day MD's avatar

There are different motivations to enter and continue in medicine. My greatest fear going into the profession was that I would hurt or kill somebody by making a mistake, and my satisfaction at helping people was my main driving factor. This was the common thread when I worked at a remote hospital and clinics on the Navajo Reservation from 1990-1992, but it is not so common in other settings, as you point out. I always found my niche in patient-care, not in business, and never made much money, though I did OB, deliveries, c-sections and supervised residents as a Family Practice faculty member, and medical director of a small charity clinic, which later became an FQHC, and part of the bureaucratic-state, as a result.

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Saint Jimmy's avatar

I rarely go to a doctor. My wife sees a GP here a few times a year. Both of us are pretty healthy but a bit out of shape. We like good cuisine.

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reante's avatar

Thanks for sharing Jean! I look up to you.

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Saint Jimmy's avatar

My wife and I were diagnosed with it a couple of years ago. We had it for 4 or 5 days and it was basically a bad cold or mild flu. We didn't get vaccinated. Had I still been still working, I would have probably been forced to get vaccinated. I'm convinced that covid was nothing more than a mild flu repackaged with a partially fake history and fraudulent testing and statistics but I'm not a doctor or virologist.

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reante's avatar

Thanks SJ. We don't have to be doctors or virologists to know what's what when it comes to 'covid.' We just have to do our homework accurately, which is voluntary. The tests are not diagnostic tools.

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Grasshopper Kaplan's avatar

Yes , I have thought to join the republiCats as I certainly ain't no dammm ScKamala demoRat.

Definitely feeling more broken every day.

I have to get additional work as the one job won't suffice, although they take away my whole life

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Roark Erikson's avatar

John, you are a wonderful Grandfather, and an awesome family man. Every kid should have the love you show to Atlas. In a perfect world it would be that way.

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les online's avatar

USNATO was gonna 'fight Russia to the last Ukrainian', but

it got too hard so President Trump now wants to walk away

from the fight ! Victory in Defeat ?

Good job those Ruskies took the real heat in the WW2 battle

to bring down Nazi Germany, otherwise might we have seen

US walk away from that European battle ?

Remember what President Trump said about The USNATO

proxy war against Russia: "The USA Started It !"

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John Day MD's avatar

It's really global-financial elites against human herds.

I think Trump and Putin both grok that.

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Hubbs's avatar

Just as Charles Hughes Smith decried our maufacturing of inferior products as part of the "landfill economy" and "crapification" of the US economy, I think we are entering the "salvagfication"

or damage control phase . No question things are wrecked, resources depleted and we are burning the candle at both ends from massive debt financially and more difficult to access raw matetrials and energy. The question is, realistically, is our system even salvageable?

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John Day MD's avatar

John Michael Greer's writings are for you

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reante's avatar

I'd refer him to Fast Eddy before I referred him to JMG lol. Imagine those two guys in the same room. How long would that last before JMG got his regal panties in a twist?

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John Day MD's avatar

Greer seeks to be constructive, and puts good work into it. He goes through processes, which might or might not lead to a particular world he envisions, but going through the processes is a good exercise.

Fast Eddy is less constructive and more nihilistic, in my experience with his views and interactions.

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Paul Downey's avatar

In North America you have 600m people who have all lived for a very long time as though you can have infinite growth on a finite planet, and here in Europe it's much the same. It seems to me the only question worth pursuing is is there a plan in place to manage our collapse to more sustainable numbers. Top soils have been mined relentlessly and major aquifers are collapsing, it is not all about oil.

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John Day MD's avatar

"Not all about oil" is right. I am living lightly, particularly for an American, though not for a Honduran or South Indian. I am having to figure out how to do it. It is not all abstract-reasoning.

You have to manage your collapse. The plan from the owners is to cull the humans that are the least useful to them, slowly, so as to not spook the herd and break modern-industrial-economy.

That's difficult. Russia and the US have the most natural resources per capita of major countries, in that order. Trump openly wants to grab Greenland and even Canada (after talking to Trudeau, who said sanctions would destroy Canada).

Here is a 20 min video on The Limits To Growth Update, from 2023 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkBNuQYly20

Here is the 2022 paper, upon which it is based https://mahb.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/yale-publication-1.pdf

Europe and the UK are being driven into population austerity, preparatory to major war, by the financial & power elites, who like to remain invisible to us.

I disagree with their approach, and must seek spiritual guidance daily, as I don't see an effective bureaucratic-technical framework.

Musk thinks AI, and it can do some projects that need doing, but it does hallucinate, and does not suffer consequences of errors.

If AI runs our planet, we will be subject to all dying from one mistake.

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reante's avatar

The topsoil losses and aquifer losses are because of oil, therefore it is all about the oil.

When it is no longer at all about the oil we will again participate in building soil for ourselves and drinking surface water. Some of us are doing both of those already.

"A plan to manage collapse" ? Are you seriously asking if there's a non-public Degrowth Agenda in existence? Come on, Paul, that's some hopium if I ever heard it. Now THAT I'd like to see.

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Die Untermensche's avatar

And we're right back to vitamin D deficiency as a major factor in covid. Just as was originally posited from the Italian care home deaths in the first month of the 'crisis'

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John Day MD's avatar

I gave away 40,000 doses of 5000IU vitamin-D3 in 2020, and with a lot of explaining about taking care of one's family, too.

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reante's avatar

People and there artificial supplements. Supplementing with fake sunshine moves us further away from becoming the landraces we once again need to become. Unless we live near the equator, we live in dynamic energy cycles, because we live on planet earth. Our annual energy cycles between cleaner-and-stronger and weaker-and-dirtier because the sunshine reaching us also does. We adapt with more rest and seasonal detoxification cycles, and increasingly so as we age. Those adaptations are beautiful things.

Then there our wonderful new HHS leader, who goes above and beyond vit d and takes TRT instead, the new amphetamine. He looks like the puffy steroids user he is.

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John Day MD's avatar

It was the most cost effective thing to do in 2020, get everybody's vitamin-D levels up into the normal range somewhere to help keep them out of hospitals and morgues, and it was even politically acceptable.

I don't know what medicines or supplements RFK Jr. might use.

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reante's avatar

Sure, sometimes we make short-term decisions under the circumstances. I was advocating for long-termisn there. Bobby is a self-avowed TRT abuser. Welcome to national socialism lol.

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John Day MD's avatar

I did a search and it appears that he has publicly stated that testosterone is part of his healthy-aging regimen.

People like "T"...

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reante's avatar

Right, well I used "abuse" because it's cheating. Cheating yourself. Coffee is one thing, unnecessary hormone replacement is another, whether it's in the name of fake trans rights or fake fitness where your fake doctor's fake prescription is for more testosterone than your body would make even if you were living naturally to optimize your T levels. It's 'natural' steroid use. You and I both know that. And it fits perfectly with socially conservative politics because it's a straight edge drug that hormonally replaces, above exercise, rest, and eating right, a highly active libido that is the primary way aging men optimize T production. Welcome to civilization: it's another kind of soma.

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Saint Jimmy's avatar

About "brokenism"... I couldn't agree more and many young people, at least those who know some history, sense it, too. Nice post. Thanks.

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Figmund Sreud's avatar

FWIW: Rabobank provides an update on its last November’s article*). Article that was posted here in the past. This time, the updated article concentrates on the US itself:

US Economic Statecraft: Days of Future Past

https://thoughtfulmoney.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/global_strategy_us_economic_statecraft_days_of_future_past.pdf

*) Previous article:https://media.rabobank.com/m/60b62dca958fd79/original/Macrostrategy-vs-Grand-Macro-Strategy-Trump-ling-on-market-policy-conventions.pdf

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John Day MD's avatar

Thanks FS. That Michael Every article from 2/4/25 is already overrun by events, isn't it?

The title, US Economic Statecraft: Days of Future Past, immediately started this song playing in my head: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5N7qHmEgxA

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